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1  General Boards / Technical Issues and Bug Reports / Re: "ID Already In Use" loop. on: March 31, 2011, 06:54:54 pm
Yes what type of inter u use if wireless idk what to do. But what I do know is if u have broad band inter net call your provider and ask then if they can't remove all your cookies and temps and error that what I didn't and my computer work awesome if this does not work am sorry buddy I don't know what else to do?

An ISP can't remove my cookies or do anything else on my computer - I'm behind a firewall.

Besides, I've removed the browser entirely before (including the directories that held the files) - no cookies or cache would survive that.

Thanks for the try - I'm sure at some point I'll be able to get back in. Smiley
2  General Boards / General Discussion / Re: FF forums are back! on: March 27, 2011, 03:03:21 pm
3  General Boards / General Discussion / FF forums are back! on: March 27, 2011, 01:50:46 pm
I just noticed that there are new forums you can get to through FF's web site.

They are a subset of the CN forums, but there are boards that are specific to FF.

cool! Perhaps I can get out of my ID Already In Use loop. Smiley

4  General Boards / Technical Issues and Bug Reports / "ID Already In Use" loop. on: March 26, 2011, 08:44:52 pm
I haven't been able to play for about 4 months. I've been kept kind of busy lately, so I don't try every day...

  But about half way through the "loading character selection" screen, I get the error "ID already in use. Disconnect existing connection?", with a Cancel and OK button.

  If I click Cancel, the green background stays, but that pop-up window does nothing else.
  If i click "Okay", then the same alert pops up.

  I've e-mailed the "help desk", and they tell me the same thing: clear your cache and cookies, quit your browser and log back in.

   but I've actually un-installed Unity, deleted the FF files, cleared my cache & cookies, and then reloaded Unity and the FF files... and it does it again.

  when the last update hit, with the new training grounds and all, I was able to get into one of my low-level characters. But when I tried to change character to my main character, the pop up window froze on me. When I killed it and restarted the window...

   "ID already in use. Disconnect existing connection?"


anyone got any ideas?
5  General Boards / Technical Issues and Bug Reports / Re: Any Mac users with Snow Leopard? on: October 24, 2010, 06:53:10 am
So the final answer was - I had to reload the older version of the operating system on it. The newer version required newer hardware. (The laptop is old... 2006)

Now that I down[\i]graded the operating system, both Firefox and Safari work for FF again.

6  General Boards / General Discussion / Re: (Mega Swiftwater) Whats wrong with hacked taros? (curious) on: October 19, 2010, 05:37:41 pm
(SNIP) The price goes down.

The entire rest of the post was excellent - but on this point is incorrect. Prices go UP.

In Italy, the Lira became worthless and soon they started printing million-lira notes.

In some South American countries, inflation has also led to their governments printing more money - and then other countries viewed their currency as worth less than before... wrecking their economy.

7  General Boards / General Discussion / Re: (Mega Swiftwater) Whats wrong with hacked taros? (curious) on: October 19, 2010, 08:28:38 am
Well of course we wouldn't be discussing how to generate fake taros.

If I knew - without a doubt - how to... then I'd be e-mailing the dev team to plug the hole in their program. Do you think I want prices ridiculously high again??

A normal player, saving their money (no warps / monkeys) and doing all the missions should have enough money to help finish out one of the seven sets.

If everything's price goes up by a factor of ten, then the only way to get even one of those sets is to grind grind grind until you happen to get the right piece.

[Edit] Besides, for anyone who knows my IG character, I like prices to be low. How do I contribute to this? I grind the Doom Striders - and then sell the stuff well below the current rates.

Oh no, I can hear the "I'm cool 'cause I have stuff you don't" crowd whining now... shrug As the game says, it's not about getting/collecting stuff, it's about the social interaction and having fun.

And that's not really a very fun "kid's game". This ain't WoW, folks.

8  General Boards / General Discussion / Re: (Mega Swiftwater) Whats wrong with hacked taros? (curious) on: October 19, 2010, 06:47:21 am
I'm not sure. If you hack a game like this, that's just sad.

That's also true - but if he hasn't figured out why it's bad in terms of game dynamics, do you think he'll understand the deeper reasoning??

This may be a good time to bring up another - but Very Related - concept.

A hack is not a bug exploit is not a bot.

In reverse order, a bot is when you use a program to automate some normal, legal behavior of the game. I believe that the FF account agreement prohibits bots - but I could be mistaken. Keep i mind though - a bot is not a hack. ( http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/17117-Hack-resistance?p=120377&viewfull=1#post120377- search for 'What is hacked in this example?' )

A Bug Exploit is not a hack - it is a special case of an Easter Egg (like the jump "hack"). In fact, the only difference between a Bug Exploit and an Easter Egg is that the former would get fixed quickly by the dev team if they found out about it (and could find the buggy code to fix) and the latter is left in - on purpose (and may have been put in on purpose).

AFAIK, the dev team doesn't seem to care about the jump hack. And some parts of the game have jump pads you can only get to either as a team (rocket/group jump) or with the jump hack.

A real hack is when you are faking out data - one way or another - to the server to convince the server that the game is in a state other than how a character could have gotten it... just by pressing keys. And there's no way anyone could get 2,147,483,647 taros in this lifetime by playing the game - without hacking it. I know of a scenario with bots where you could earn about a million taros a day - but it requires a hundred bots at a time. Anyone got a hundred computers, a bot program, and the bandwidth to run them all?  Cheesy   I didn't think so.
  Even with such a ridiculous scenario, it'd still take 2,147 days to get to that number. FF hasn't been running for the 5 years it'd take. Given that most of us have ONE computer to play FF with, it'd take 500 years. Oh, you have 5 computers? only 100 years.

  So the taros hack is a hack. It's a cheat of the system. In fact, the "taros hack" seems to be a bug exploit combined with a hack - see the above link for the long version of why I think this. (The short version is - a bullet-proof client/server program has the server owning all of the data and the client can't fake out the server. Ever.) I'd bet that if the dev team could locate the code that allows the taros hack, they'd fix it quickly. If I were on the dev team... I certainly would.

Now that we have established what a hack is... it should be easier to understand the deeper reasoning for those of us who care either about cheating ourselves or cheating others.
9  General Boards / General Discussion / Re: (Mega Swiftwater) Whats wrong with hacked taros? (curious) on: October 19, 2010, 05:04:07 am
To understand why hacked taros are "bad for the economy", you'll have to learn some basics of economics.

So - to make it easier - let's move the exact same idea to the real world:

   Why is it bad for the world's economy if Joe Criminal printed out (somehow) a Quadrillion Dollars in perfect counterfeit money?
   In this picture, no one could tell in ANY way which bills were real or counterfeit.

  so - a quadrillion dollars of new money just APPEARS: 1,000,000,000,000,000
  Keep in mind that the stimulus was only                    1,000,000,000,000

  So - do you know why this quadrillion fake dollars would be Bad??

10  General Boards / Fall-Bay: Trading Forum / Re: Looking for an O C shirt on: October 08, 2010, 08:40:35 pm
Nevermind. I don't need it that badly. I'll just wait until the new levels come out, and then ignore the Seven Sets.

And so will everyone else.

11  General Boards / Fall-Bay: Trading Forum / Re: Looking for an O C shirt on: October 07, 2010, 05:21:43 am
Ok, in addition to the 5 mil taros, the items available are listed below. Let me know what it would take for you to want to trade, and I'll let you guys know which one I'll trade with. Thanks.  Grin

- Tech Tactical Set

- Ben Jacket
- Cannon Bolt pants
- Jungle Boots

- planetary commander (lvl 28 rare shattergun)
- planetary legionairre (lvl 34 ...)
- planetary mercenary (lvl 36 ...)

- tactical bio-plasma cannon (lvl 34 UR rocket)
- massive bio-plasma cannon (lvl 36 ...)

- electron meta mace (lvl 21 UR mace)  [Not the Nanite Mace]
- neutron meta mace (lvl 24 UR mace)

- glamour rifle (lvl 32 UR rifle)
- fashion rifle (lvl 34 ...)
- couture rifle (lvl 36 ...)

- ancient dragon blade
- jade dragon blade
- hex staff

- SA shirt
- AA shirt
- coco feet

- red, yellow, green, and blue leviathans
- Nitrogenic vaporizer (rare lvl 36 pistol)
- engines: lvl 27, 31, 33 and 35

12  General Boards / Fall-Bay: Trading Forum / Looking for an O C shirt on: October 06, 2010, 11:55:36 am
What I'm offering:
  - Glamour Rifle
  - Tech Tactical Set
  - Five Mil Taros

If you'd rather some other items, I might be able to do that - but I can't raise the amount of taros.

Proton Foresterumber
13  General Boards / Fall-Bay: Trading Forum / Re: Auction:Oc,Sa,EliteV, and More on: August 15, 2010, 07:21:26 pm
Roller's offer is the best uhm anybody got more =l i need 7 set items,money and tc shoes.

I thought you had 3 OC shirts?

Is an AA set and a CB set not enough for a shirt?

14  General Boards / Fall-Bay: Trading Forum / Re: Auction:Oc,Sa,EliteV, and More on: August 15, 2010, 01:23:21 pm
Oc Shirt x3

I'll bid an AA set and a CB set for one of the OC shirts.

Proton Foresterumber.
15  General Boards / Fall-Bay: Trading Forum / Re: selling oc set on: August 15, 2010, 07:18:59 am
What else do I need to add to win? I raise the money to 2 million taros with the items.

well i think your offer is about 5 to 7 mil

I offer:
  AA set + CB set

ign: Proton Foresterumber

I won't be able to get in-game until this afternoon (Sunday) though...
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